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I watched the Dr. Phil Interview with Paul Janka the other day, and I think I can summarize it like this:
Tall, good looking Harvard grad manages to sleep with 138 women over 10 years by devoting his entire life to getting laid.
Now, I’m not suggesting that Paul Janka has no game – I’m sure he can get a number in a club as good as any other guy out there, and I don’t doubt that he’s slept with 138 or however many women. But the fact is, the kind of attitude that Paul Janka represents is, in my opinion, the bad side of the community. I really don’t think guy in the community should be using him as a role model.
For example.
He mentions at one point that “on a good week, I go on 10-15 dates”. Where the hell does he find the time to go on 15 dates a week? That’s 780 dates a year! Even if you presume that he sleeps with 138 women a YEAR, that means he’s getting shut down 642 times! And he’s been doing this for how many years? No wonder he needs to be cheap
Clearly, Paul Janka has some serious problems with his game, and you can see it in the way that women react to him.
Now, I know that the Dr. Phil show deliberately creates drama and is happy to make people look bad if they can get raitings – heck, they tried to do something similar when Lovesystems was on the show – but you can tell that the women in the audience, and the women who interacted with Paul were NOT impressed by him. Even if it was a bit of a setup, the sentiment was genuine.
He set off their creep radar.
Deep down inside, you can tell from Paul’s writings and his attitude that he doesn’t really like or understand women.
He says you need to “avoid being manipulated by a woman’s agenda”… what agenda? If you’ve done things right, her agenda will be to hook up with you. Likewise he says you shouldn’t eat with women because they feel “bloated and uncomfortable” – that’s just bizarre.
Either Paul Janka is dating some pretty messed up women (I can believe this), or his understanding of women is warped by his own insecurities.
Now, I know people are going to say “he’s just saying you shouldn’t put a woman on a pedestal”. Well, there’s a difference between not putting a woman on a pedestal and being contemptuous and fearful of them. Paul’s emphasis on “the woman’s agenda” subcommunicates that he thinks women are out to get him, and that women aren’t capable of enjoying his company for it’s own sake.
Does Paul Janka maybe have some good ideas?
Sure. I agree with him that you shouldn’t spend too much money on women, and that you shouldn’t put them on a pedestal or let them push you around, but even a broken clock is right two times a day.
The problem is the overarching theme of Janka’s “method”, his so called attraction formula, is one which encourages being suspicious and defensive around women, and one which presumes that women are out to get you and manipulate you. And if you accept that frame, accept that mindset, you’re going to become a creep.
And you’re going to have to go on 15 dates a week, just to get laid.
See my other Paul Janka post, in which I am meaner.
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i agree with you. i mean he says on the pick up podcast to just shut and let the girl talk and lead the intereaction. this will allow them to seduce theself. thats how an afc would do things
I disagree as dating is a numbers game. It’s not up to the woman only to decide to progress but you need to decide as well if she’s good enough for you Yeah, he gets shut down all the time. Nobody can be successful with every girl. Furthermore, stop worrying about what everybody else is doing and focus on yourself cause nobody else’s game is going to work for you anyway.
Clarence – Exactly! Shutting up and letting the girl talk and lead the interaction sounds like a strategy that only makes sense if you’re a good looking guy with a really unattractive personality.
Notice how Paul Janka’s new interviews are more controversial than his earlier ones?
I think he’s doing a lot of this stuff for marketing and attention. This stuff isn’t geared for people in the community, it’s for the average guy who hears “slept with 138 women” and is like “Holy Shit”.
I’ve always disagreed with dating being a numbers game… it sounds like a seen from Glen Garry, Glen Ross…
The key, is to build a lifestyle that woman can appreciate and admire… cultivate relationships and network… and in all honesty… be comfortable with who you are…
… which is easier said than done.
“Cold calling” for chicks is too much work… lol
Brad – I totally agree. Dating is not a numbers game once you’re good at it.
Though I do think that the learning process is a numbers game. Interacting with and dating a lot of women, (and inevitably striking out a lot) is part of the learning process. So it’s useful to see it as a numbers game at first.
But if you’re still in that phase after a few months, you’re doing something wrong.
I agree about being comfortable with yourself, but if you are building a lifestyle just for the intention to gain womens’ appreciation and admiration, isn’t that still not being 100% true to yourself? For insatnce, peacocking is all about seeking validation. It seems to be secondary to who you are. Couldn’t this be the same as believing women hold all the decision making power? Don’t you think you should always live in your own reality first? As in this train is leaving now, so it makes no difference whether or not you join me for the ride.
Furthermore, isn’t “networking” all about reaching numerous people? Wouldn’t you agree that instead of cold-calling it’s more how you deal with impromptu opportunities?
“i agree with you. i mean he says on the pick up podcast to just shut and let the girl talk and lead the intereaction. this will allow them to seduce theself. thats how an afc would do things”
I listened to the interview and his mp3 Conversation secrets and that is not what he talks about.
What he means is that she should talk more than you. Females talk more than men and this is a fact, there is nothing unsexy for a women than a man that keeps talking on and on and on. What they want is a man that TRULY listens to them and does not interrupt them with unsolicited advice.
when I talk in a way that is more upfront, straightforward, specific and unapologetic, my words have more impact vs having inconsequential small talk and platitudes just to fill the time and beat around the bush.
he never mentioned about letting the women take the lead on the contrary he makes it EXPLICIT that he acts like a REFREE in the conversation and guides it where he wants by asking her open ended questions about herself to get more information about her and build intimacy at the same time.
Is dating a numbers game? yes to a certain degree . There is no fool proof method for women are to a certain extent “creatures of the moment”, it all depends on how they are feeling at a given time and although you can influence that, it is never under your total control.
What is under your control is your behavior towards ppl and how you let/allow/tolerate people’s behavior towards you.
if you are not being rejected it means that either you are not pushing the interaction far enough or that you are approaching girls that are already looking for someone and you have a good intuition on picking up on that.
you might not like janka’s game but check out again his ebook, there are lots of interesting information in it.
ps: yes taking women on a dinner/date hardly works because no one wants to fuck after a heavy meal (I don’t), it is too romantic for a first date (she’s still a stranger) and it might appear as if I’m trying to buy her affection by impressing her. To me, a girl has to earn the right to be spoiled.
Regard,
“i agree with you. i mean he says on the pick up podcast to just shut and let the girl talk and lead the intereaction. this will allow them to seduce theself. thats how an afc would do things”
I listened to the interview and his mp3 Conversation secrets and that is not what he talks about. m
Hey cool blog.
I agree with the premise of your post. I think Janka is a full of crap publicity whore.
He also isn’t media savvy enough to have read the stories where women complain men don’t take them on dates anymore. Men just expect to meet on MySpace (or wherever) come over nad have sex.
This is the key. Who goes on dates to get laid? Dating is s0 1956…a nice thing to do if you wanna get married. But not to get laid.
Dating, as Tom Leykis says, consists of: you take her out on the date, you spend the money, then you drop her off at the Bad Boy’s house where she has sex…with him, not you.
I’m suspicious of anyone who goes on “dates” too much.
I disagree completely with your analysis on Paul Janka.
There seems to be a perception that is certainly standardised in our society is – if you manage to sleep around excessively – you’re an unethical, narcissistic, moral-deprived individual. Now, whatever one’s belief in how an ‘ideal’ community or society should work – self-interest realistically takes precedence. And in the case of Paul Janka, he’s doing something that he likes to do. It’s as simple as that.
I’m not saying that all males should go out there and chauvinistically oppress women only to score with them. All I am saying is that I think it’s wrong to conclude that what Paul Janka is doing is wrong. I think he has every right to do what he wants as long as they are not illicit, in which they aren’t. The sex is consensual. The conversations work. His routine and strategies so far have worked. That’s it. He’s been able to reconcile his emotional responses to ensure that he successfully scores with women. Especially in the face of how women classically are always chased by men – I find it commendable that he has reversed the chasing process.
Lastly, one thing I loved about what he said was that we shouldn’t position women on a pedestal as if they are unobtainable. That’s simply true. The collective notion is that women are regarded as the hallmark of society. If women certainly want equality – we as males must also treat women as equals in the dating environment. Paul Janka has demonstrated this through his steadfast confidence and strong sense of conviction when picking up women.
I salute him.
Anonymous –
If you’ll read a bit more of my blog, you’ll find that I’m not anti-sleeping around.
I’m not saying that Paul Janka is a narcissist or a creep BECAUSE he sleeps around, I’m arguing that he’s a creep AND he sleeps around, and that he would probably get laid a lot more, with a lot less effort, if he were less of a creep.
I agree with Paul that you shouldn’t put women on a pedestal, but he didn’t invent that idea, and one good idea doesn’t make up for the large quantity of bullshit ideas he proposes.
AMEN! It makes me sick that everyone just follows the newest product not even thinking about what they are really promoting. You have these guys talking about inner game and being a man on their site, then they push this creepy product?
I think even my faithful companion Bobby may have put a post up for him, I had to let it go and make him promise he would never do it again…lol
I haven’t met him in person, but from what I have seen and herd this guy should not be looked upon as a role model.
Just look at the bad press this guy gets!
http://gawker.com/news/paul-janka/
Be a Man, not a Dick!
I’m not sure I totally agree. There’s the portrayal of Paul Janka, but I’ve met the guy. Yes, the first time I saw him I thought he was almost TOO laid back. But as I got to know him I realized that he’s got a lot of game AND an up front attitude about what he does, just like all the top PUAs at lovesystems — although I haven’t met you guys, yet (I’m in NYC and don’t have enough money to take a bootcamp at the moment).
Paul’s game is mostly a numbers game. So is everyone else’s, but he’s actually very good at picking up women and daygame. Very efficient, but in order to do this he does a lot of approaching and plays a numbers game. When he’s talking about a woman’s agenda, he means dinners, winning over her friends, and whatever else comes up, before having sex. The stuff that may often not lead anywhere. Consider, this is just an alternative approach. On the one hand, you can get really good at winning over groups of people, at having long “day 2′s” and maximizing your chances, or you can spend this time meeting hundreds of women and then using the numbers in your favor. The second approach is arguably much less personal, but also much less frustrating for the guy who wants to date lots of women and play the field.
Paul’s been able to take it to the extreme where he wastes the least amount of time and resources on getting sex, of any man in the world probably (who is not rich or famous). And one of his views is that once you’ve had sex with a woman, you are much more free to be yourselves — she is no longer playing hard to get and you are no longer thinking how to get in her pants as you talk to her. When you talk about, say, politics, the conversation will be genuine.
Not everyone is all about sex, but it’s true that a lot of the guys in the pickup community are about getting sex quickly and say pretty much the same things as Janka (e.g. David D: becoming lovers early on gives you more choices than prolonged dating).
That said, of course there is the ideal that a woman would prefer. That is for a man to present himself well, spend time with her, make her feel special and totally comfortable, and then seduce her. This same man would be great to present to friends, to family, etc. The problem is, today’s women also in the meantime get seduced by and sleep with all kinds of OTHER men — on vacation,say — while this presumably ideal guy is taking his romantic sweet time. So until getting in a relationship, almost everyone’s playing the field, i.e. everyone is having quick sex until they find their next long term relationship.
I’m not sure there’s really much conflict here.
I watched an interview with Cajun recently, and one part stuck in my mind, he said that one of the most effective approaches (particularly for day game) is:
“Listen, I think you’re really cute. I’d kick myself in the ass if I didn’t come over and introduce myself … so, how ya doing, I’m Derek, nice to meet you. Listen, I gotta go, but you should give me your number, I’d love to talk to you.”
Pretty damn close to Janka’s approach.
Insofar as Janka being a tall, good looking, Harvard grad … that also has to be balanced with the fact this is New York. He’s also over thirty, and has no money. Obviously, he’s doing something right. All without A1A2A3, IVDs, C&F, or whatever else is being promoted now.
It’s not club game, and I’m sure you guys would blow him out of the water in competition. But most guys don’t really get MM to work anyway, witness Derek’s cousin on Keys to Progress. And here’s a guy that undoubtedly gets a lot more instruction than most.
Personally, I like the simple approach Janka suggests. Too much of the community has been obsessed with social proofing. And lets be honest, it’s a bit of a con. Most will never be the alpha dominant leader bringing life to the party (and I don’t care how many lines your rehearse in front of the mirror).
Janka proves getting laid can be a lot simpler.
You’ve misunderstood Janka, at the very least, you haven’t written why exactly you object to him. You say he’s a creep, without having said why.
The women on the show hissed at him because he has reduced women’s machinations in the dating game to naught, and revealed the ugly hypocrisies that comprise the psyche of American women. Were he to engage those women one on one, without being paraded as a Cassanova, he’d surely have charmed a great deal of them.
He wants to sleep with lots of women for little money and time per bang, and he’s found a system to achieve that.
And every man with game will say forward things to a woman; some will laugh, some will be aroused, and some will be disgusted.
Also, it’s my firm belief that many American women straight up suck, they have a huge sense of entitlement – witness the woman who was angry at him for having scolded her about eating that cookie – if this were a dude you were teaching, you would be telling him he’s being reactive, instead of fun and playful. A cool response from a girl would be “Yeah, Ill just get fat and settle for a trekkie” or “Alright, you eat it and get fat instead of me” or any number of other answers, instead of “Oh my God, I’m a woman, I can’t have a man telling me to eat healthy so I can stay attractive!”
Unlike you though, I see less value to having platonic friendships with women. They can be emasculating, and the best of men get along fine without them.
Hey chris, I respect your game man. but paul hgas been doing this on his own.. he didnt have sinn or mystery to mentor him. I give him props..its new york man.I live here and it fits into what I can gain experience . I do nightgame ala TMM and follow Sinn’s SNL’s game helped me. but Paul breaks it down crude but truly unique. As in all cities, there are all type of messed up and unhealthy women, here.
If you read his book on “obsessed” he basically breaks down afc traits and alpha traits and references ways to the superior man.
He is man behind the scene , not the boyfriend type that gets cheated on.
He is control in relationships which is coolest ever stuff ive read and applied cause…. I bet you guys offer a seperate course on that just to make things into business but anyways … He incorporates man in control of his life and relationships whether it one night of serious.
I ended up meeting him. he is different and I dont consider him “community” he is the real deal .
cassanova and don juan were different
I love ya Tenmagnet, but Paul Janka ain’t tall. He’s slightly taller than Cajun, and that guy ain’t tall.
Okay, first of all, I want to clarify something.
Paul Janka is a DAMN good-looking guy. I’m totally straight but that was the first thing that occured to me about him. True, women are not as looks-oriented as we are but if you look like that, women will naturally be more receptive to you, no matter what you say, NYC or not.
Hence, for him to be parading his “I can do it, so can you, and I’ll show you in my book” is definitely misleading. I think partially the reason why Style and Mystery are such PUA gods is because they are quite average looking like the rest of us and they STILL rack up the women.
I am going to agree with the comment above that your post about Paul Janka seems a little bit more of a ‘pissed-off’ rant.
I feel like each pick-up technique is geared toward a particular situation: the Mystery Method with negging etc, deals mainly with highly attractive women in mostly sets, mostly in a club, and Janka makes it clear his method is for NYC people doing day-game, oftentimes on single target.
You also states he has some game problems and ” you can see it in the way that women react to him in the Dr Phil Show”, but actually you can’t. Have you actually watched the Dr Phil Show aside from that episode? I have several times, back when I was married, and let me tell you, none of you PUA would get a pass or a positive reaction from any lady on the show. I know Style did a show I believe with ABC Morning or so and had some positive reactions, but remember, he went in the show with his girlfriend. No woman will smile at you if you pop up on the Dr Phil show talking about teaching men how to Pick-Up and game women. And I don’t blame them. If some chick pops up on a male show discussing how ladies can game men, I will react like the ladies reacted against Janka.
You also say “Likewise he says you shouldn’t eat with women because they feel “bloated and uncomfortable” – that’s just bizarre.”… that’s misinformation, sir. Janka says “why would you take a woman on a date to eat? You should take her to a lounge. Eating will not even work because they will actually end up feeling…”. I’m not sure about the lady, but if I go on a date and eat, yeah, I myself feel “full and not-at-my-sexiest”. Let alone the lady. His word choice might be different from yours, but come on, isn’t that true? Besides, are you recommending taking ladies on dates now as part of the pick up process? So why disagree with him?
Last, you say “Paul’s emphasis on “the woman’s agenda” subcommunicates that he thinks women are out to get him, and that women aren’t capable of enjoying his company for it’s own sake”, in response to his “avoid being manipulated by a woman’s agenda” comment…
Euh, excuse-me? Women are out to get you sir, do you know how many men spend money, dates, and time on women and never end up sleeping with them? Besides, every single PUA says the same thing. Set your frame, lead (Magic Bullet), women mindset is to test you (David DeAngelo,M ystery) blah blah, same things. Why single Janka out.
And last, I have read his book, and his overarching theme is not “to be suspicious and defensive”, etc. His theme is the same as yours, Juggler’s, and the one that is shared in Magic Bullet (I read that too), but he just goes about his pick-ups differently: be upfront, no need to neg her if she is cute: actually tell her she is (which contradicts your “he is suspicious of ladies” theme), no need to attempt to pick up on Saturday night when you are competing with everybody and the ladies are fielding guys left and right. In a nutshell, I look at all of you, and I think: Different approach centered around different situations/settings, but same goal.
You might still be right, God knows if there is anything wrong with him, with you, or anybody else for that matter. If he did, then damn him. But on a layman’s term, your post felt like you were kinda mad at him, and just venting, without necessarily trying to convince us. I think there is enough room for several PUA techniques, and I actually think his might work good for day-game women who are waiting for the bus, etc, while yours (the Mystery Method) is better to game HBs who are out with their friends, waiting to get hit on.
He seems to have a contrarian approach. No gimmicks or mind games. The big question is how much of his success is attributable to his looks. A 6’1″, very good looking white guy can clean up fairly well without the use of “pick up strategies.” That he is tall and handsome will make guys doubt whether his techniques will work for them.
The big question is how much of his success is attributable to his looks. A 6′1″, very good looking white guy can clean up fairly well without the use of “pick up strategies.”
I beg to differ…looks/image/health is VERY important to a women…people who tell you that looks don’t matter are just LYING to you…thing is , it’s pretty easy for a man to be above average looking.
a)Hit the gym, exercises, live a healthy lifetstyle, eat well, sleep well.
b)groom and keep your higine intact.
c) dress well i.e. dress for success..women want a man not a boy.
STOP COMPLAINING THAT GUY A OR B GETS LAID BECAUSE HE IS GOOD LOOKING. UNLESS you were born with birth defects, you can always improve your looks/projected image.
Paul Janka game works and all you indirect mystery method followers are the only ones who doubt and critisize him and it’s all about playing the numbers with women. You can sit there and talk to one women for hours telling stories make her laugh at the end of it all she wont have sex with you.
I really disagree. I think it’s only about “playing the numbers” when your game is bad.
I screen a bit when I open, but If I talk to a woman for 20 minutes, I can usually get her phone number, and if I can get her phone number, I can get her to meet up with me 80% of the time. That’s a LOT better than the numbers Paul Janka is getting, because Paul Janka reeks of insincerity and 99% of women can see that.
And trust me, if a woman doesn’t want to hook up with me, I can tell that WAY before I’ve spent hours talking to her. And more importantly, I teach my students how to do the same.
First of all Janka is not a ‘PUA’, he’s strictly what they call a player, and by definition he likes talking getting lots of phone numbers, he don’t give a fuck if a girl don’t react to his intent, she can either take a pass or join the action.
I believe his method is more centered on getting the close, rather than the glitzy dancing-monkey syndrom that most guys do when they do learn ‘pickup’.
Everyone can have their opinions on every ‘guru’ out there, but the fact that Paul is a player, most of his techniques found on his book and on his new program Beyond the Digits talk that the ideas exposed there are in fact used in most players.
Also I don’t think he uses woman, he has had long term girlfriends. And by the term player it means that he is the chooser, nowadays the woman is the one who dictates whether you hook up with her or not, so a player is strictly just having his own selection of women. After all women do not approach men, so if you don’t have a social circle, need to man up and get laid, and in the process create female friends or f buddies his method is for you.
Oh and BTW I hate the term ‘seduction community’, I like his method the best because his advice is very very different than every other guru out there.
I love the Paul janka method/system I live in baltimore and it works excellent here…I can tons of numbers and can quickly seduce and lay the girls…best system on the market bar non
you know somethin… this is obviously a tactic to scare people away from paul janka… because he has simply made a structure that is simple and effective..
the only thing that you are worried about is that people will no long need your so called “advice” because once a man is now comfortable with his level of success – he will no longer need you. Paul has gone out there and given simple advice that works… no bullshit techniques and over complicated routines that take a lifetime to practice.
day game/number game/3 days a week is a lot better than spending all his money and time in clubs
and you can see what they look like during the day
))
I salute him.
no gay ass stories, or wierd question for openers.
Hater in the house……
you obviously hate this guy. maybe you aren’t getting laid. way to skew the stats. 10-15 dates is a GOOD week he said. not average, not typical. GOOD aka ABOVE average. 780 dates is if he had 52 consecutive GOOD weeks. i think he would chalk that up to an AMAZING YEAR. if a good week is 10-15, let’s say on average he goes on 6 dates a week. got to account for BAD weeks – even Michael Jordan missed game winnings shots in the clutch. 6 dates a week would be 312 dates a year. WAY less than HALF of the number you pulled out of your @$$.
Assume for a second that your number of 780 is true. and he did bang 138 different women in a year. it doesn’t mean he got shot down 642 times. if he went on 780 dates – it does NOT mean he dated 780 different women. maybe he went on 780 dates with 275 women. Most women 1 time. some 2-3 some 4-5. maybe some he saw 2-3 times a month over the span of a year. he said he likes variety, but he DID say he loves repeat customers. i know if i have amazing sex with a girl, i wouldn’t want it to be a one night stand.
The guy’s method is not flawless. But damn he seems like he is on to something. and his method isn’t necessarily JUST to bang chicks….it’s to MEET women. Most guys do want to find “mrs Right” but they have trouble approaching women or “picking up” women or getting a number, etc. he’s trying to open the door for this guy as well. Ever see the movie Hitch. “Any man can sweep any woman off her feet – he just needs the right broom.” this guy is selling brooms. he is the real life hitch – he just brings out the bad side by being a dog and banging everyone he can – literally.
and putting women on a pedestal. that was in a movie too. 40 year virgin. they said it 2-3 times in that movie. and it came down to the main character having trouble APPROACHING women (and in turn, not getting laid because of it) but APPROACHING women was the MAIN reason for that statement. same thing for Janka’s statement.
Don’t hate the player – hate your lack of a sex life
fuck who ever says paul is no good ..to me he is my guru he is a legend . and he is helping all man kind ..
this guy is an arsehole
go and meet someone that makes the chemistry between you flow
not try and füçk anything that comes along you wånkérs
Your whole article about him reeks of envy.
Tenmagnet doesnt understand Paul’s game at all.
I dont know how much he studies with him but i
went with him for one-on-one street coaching in
nyc.
within 1 hour paul got about 20 HOT girls phone
numbers right in front of me… and his average
pickup time was 1 – 2 min MAX. and these girls
got attracted it was like a “YES!” when he asked
for the digits… not like a lot of the videos where
guys are playing games for 10 min just to get
a phone number.
then what he does is he mass text the 20 chicks
he got the numbers for and then a few will drop
off a few he will text back n forth and get dates
and then he will fuck 2 – 3 of them.
For for a fucking hour of work where is TOTALLY
being himself and having a blast flirting with
girls in NYC and not practicing methods or
anything he can fuck 2 or 3 girls out of it on
average.
It blew me away. I have seen the “masters”
infield videos and NOTHING compared to
seeing paul work the streets of NYC. He
was a machine.
Tenmagnet is very wrong about him trust me.
Most guys are not hung up on moral view of
how to view women “corectly” they are here
to get pussy PERIOD. Paul shows you how
to get pussy.
And tenmagnet for 20 min of work on ONE girl you are getting 80% chance of getting laid with ONE girl.
If paul is picking up girls 1 – 2 min on average then
getting them to meet him either at a lounge right
next to his apt or meet him in his apt to “meet up
before going out” then he bangs them without
even going out then he is more effiecient in
getting laid then you.
his “gaming” is not even work… just him going
out and having fun. Investing the least amount
of energy in getting laid. Its awesome for the
dudes that just want to stop their dry spell and
fuck. if you are looking for serious dating or you
have moral issues with banging a lot of chicks
no strings attached then his method is not for you
We as humans are biologically designed to do two things: Eat and procreate. We do way too much of one and not nearly enough of the other. Read Janka. Meet women. Have lots of sex. You will be a changed man…probably for the better.
I dont understand, if pauls method is creepy than what is mystery/love systems, Taking a girl through a1 to a3, c1-c3, s to s3. Or lifestyle means going to night clubs all your life to meet girls. Or if i dont go to nigyt clubs i cant game. And do all type of girls go to night clubs. not at all. no way. the best once are not in night clubs. best once are on streets, coffe shops, book stores, malls, buses, sub ways. Or love systems is jealous that Janka has extpertised Day game far fare before Love systems, Jeromy Souls claims. For love systems all methods Ross Jefferies, David D, Pauls are wrong coz they dont understand that. Love system suggests to read Magic Bullets not Art of seduction. What is your friend delibratley doing DHV for you. Is it not manipulating ? So if somone is in a country were night scene is not that alive you cant get girl firends. Or only girls you can get are those who go to night clubs not those who are more intellectual. I apply all techniques, mystery, david d, ross, janka and all work depending upon the location.
The whole scene is sad. Just be yourself. Some girls will like you, some wont. If you enjoy eveything life has to offer women will come and go naturally. The very thought of walking upto 20 girls on the street is hilarious. And paying to get someone else to show you how to do it. dear oh dear boys. take a good long look at your lives, So funny. “game” hahaha
look man all of these pick up dudes like mystery paul janka david d all have the 1 thing in common they dont take bull shit from women they dont put em on pedastools they get women in the moment and create attraction there and then buy communicating with the womens scences like david deangelo says attraction isnt a choice women are attracted to any guy who gives her a game 1 on 1 that gets her mind thinking who is this guy whys he acting like that his turning me on its thats simple where the guys knows exactly wat his doing from the first interraction men are not supposed to chase women full stop only women chase men its just the way it is because if u chase a women you automaticly lose she will say lets just be friends why because ya to easy 2 her she knows she can have you she wants a challange a guy she cant have it goes with the saying women want wat they cant have its dead true act like that and ya dating will sky rocket women all ways test men they constantly test em to see if there the alpha male and dont take shit never tell a women ya love em untill she does even then just say diddo or i do to lol keep playing her cause at the end of the day it is a game all of these guys dating gurus have worked that out and women flock to em because they cant be controlled and that bugs a womens mind soon as shes figured you out it leaves the game in her hand which will almost end the attraction here are some quick tips that have worked for me on approch be nice but not to forward women love confidence but can see if ya over confident or acting never ever be nervous or act strange cause its game over there and then ,approch her like ya known her for years be formal start to make her laugh its all about you getting her to chase you for your attention just act like ya dont care what she thinks thats attractive to a women presents a game there and then be cocky funny charm get her number or give her yours but say ya can only call or text me if ya take me out for a coffee haha make it a game there is alot to it but women these days can see right through the bull shit so stay in controll at all time all ways be on ya guard have fun with it and expect the unexspected never change ya self for any women no matter wat
all ways stir her up lol in a funny bust her balls tease her but make sure its funny i have had women do crazy things to try and get my attention even married women which i suggest to stay away from lol most women are bored and need a spark or that someone special to come long and rock her world up side down they also love guitar so if ya can play an instrument its a bonus cause ya can sing and make fun of her hah as long as shes laughing ya know wat ya doing is right some girls will get up set or test ya to see if ya will back off dont just back down right away just bacl off a little and say lighten up girly im just messing with ya haha like ii said they love a guy who they cant change who presents a stimulating game that they just love to play peace out yo
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just be yourself
being ya self just want work mate keep trying it if ya like but ya havet to be original women love original
darren. when you grow up youll rememeber this conversationand this that guy was right. what a load of nonsense I filled my head with.
its not nonsense mate its the facts read what i wrote carefully ive learnt a lot over time with women and there all different i have wired it down to 3 things women see men as 1 a friend she can rely on to support her and be there for her without getting emotionally involved 2 provider that someone who is so into her she basically uses him for her needs for money to get what she wants she will probly also sleep with him to keep him happy but will never get emotionally involved with and 3 the lover that is the 1 u want to be in the 3 because the lover is the alpha male who is all ways in control of the whole dam thing he decides what happens and she will go great distances to keep him happy and most likely will never cheat its that simple dude read it and weep lol lol
Well, Paul Janka says things how it is. That’s why LoveSystems feels threaten by a guy like him.
Magic Bullets and the LoveSystem team perpetuate a lot of misinformation out there, like the notion that everytime you number close a girl, you should be able to go out on a day two with her. Paul Janka, like you said, being a good looking, tall Harvard educated male, only successfully goes out on dates with 11 percent of the girls he number closes.
Hearing that was a relief, because I’ve numbered closed many girls, and gone into attraction and got the girl to qualify herself and all that crap you guys say in ‘Magic Bullets’.
I don’t know if you’ve actually read Janka’s book, I’m assuming you haven’t based on your comments, or your just fearful of his exposure and want to shut him down, either way, I can say one thing for sure about his material: He isn’t trying to sell a 3k bootcamp like LoveSystems in everything he publishes.
Women are sheep! Cheers Paul Janka.
Out of those 10-15 dates, some of them might be with the same person. I mean, what’s stopping him from taking a girl out more than once?
And besides, he had sex with 138 women, but not 138 times, surely, right?
I mean, he would’ve probably had sex with them multiple times.
Not sure if it’s fair to trash one guys technique to promote another like LoveSystems but I will say that Pauls system might not be for everyone but I find it to be very practical.
I don’t care what LoveSystems says – the truth is, girls are conditioned from an early age to play the game on their own terms. Teen magazines teaches them how to look for the perfect guy but most women I know don’t have a clue who the perfect guy even if he was standing right in front of them. Women can spend a lifetime looking for the perfect guy and some of them do. It’s like Steve Jobs said – people don’t know what they want until you show them.
I have found that Pauls techniques put women at ease, it puts the ball in their court and it doesn’t give them time to come up with a laundry list of things they don’t like about you. It avoids that problem all together.
Paul has a lot of respect for women and he seems to be the only one who understands how women think on a subconscious psychological level.
Only a fool would think this isn’t a numbers game.
paul is the man